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JBieb5.0
08-19-2005, 08:52 AM
What makes a good auto-x tire? Just wondering.
CleanLX
08-19-2005, 08:54 AM
Very stiff side wall.
JBieb5.0
08-19-2005, 08:58 AM
How do you tell that when shopping?
slo5ohh
08-19-2005, 09:16 AM
go on tire rack and read the reveiws, and customer coments, you find alot out about the tire that way.
mnstang
08-19-2005, 09:28 AM
kumho ecsta mx
falken azenis
JBieb5.0
08-19-2005, 09:38 AM
go on tire rack and read the reveiws, and customer coments, you find alot out about the tire that way.

Yeah, some of those reviews are nothing to me because I honestly don't trust the opinion of most of the people who write them.
RayK
08-19-2005, 10:03 AM
The Nitto 555's @ 40 lbs work very nice for the stang. I have the 275/40's and they look good besides working in dry or wet conditions. Using the same set I ran down at MAM which is much faster.
Steve
08-19-2005, 10:30 AM
kumho ecsta mx
falken azenis


These and BF goodrich G-force T/A's are the best as far as street tires go.

If you wanna talk about r compounds thats another story entirely. There are two sub categories of DOT R tires. Treaded tires (ie Victoracers, pilot sport cups, AO32's) and DOT slicks (Kumho V710's, Hooisers)

You thinking of getting a dedicated set of autoX tires? Or just upgrading what you've already got?
ACRucrazy
08-19-2005, 11:12 AM
Afterauto xing in my Azenis, (good autx tires)
I decide to get race compounds for my extra set of wheels.
If Im gonna spend he money, gonna do it right.
Steve
08-19-2005, 11:20 AM
Afterauto xing in my Azenis, (good autx tires)
I decide to get race compounds for my extra set of wheels.
If Im gonna spend he money, gonna do it right.

What are you gonna get?
nlm
08-19-2005, 11:58 AM
kumho ecsta mx



I hope you are kidding. :idiot:
Stallion
08-19-2005, 12:13 PM
I hope you are kidding. :idiot:
:stupid:

Ecsta MX tires are teh suxxor. Look into Dunlop SP Super Sport "Race" tires. Thats what I'm running. $100 a tire too. Probably the only reason my stock '95 pwnt your mach.
ACRucrazy
08-19-2005, 12:39 PM
hoosier daddy!
PHRANQUY
08-19-2005, 12:40 PM
hmmmm.....good info.
anotherfun240
08-19-2005, 12:47 PM
:stupid:

Ecsta MX tires are teh suxxor. Look into Dunlop SP Super Sport "Race" tires. Thats what I'm running. $100 a tire too. Probably the only reason my stock '95 pwnt your mach.
same with the 555's unless they are the R2's
Emart
08-20-2005, 09:40 AM
hmm I'm seeing a lot of different categories here.

my question is......You've got your regular treaded tires, then on the opposite side you have slicks. Cross between the two = Drag Radials. Is there a cross between regular tread and Drag Radials? Even if nittos DO technically have tread I dont think its a great idea to have them on my daily driver which I'm forced to drive in the rain...so I'm trying to find the best of both worlds without any downside pretty much, lol.
ACRucrazy
08-20-2005, 10:26 AM
I decided on new wheels and tires, 15x8s with 225/45/15s
Prolly a winter present to my selft though.
CleanLX
08-20-2005, 10:47 AM
hmm I'm seeing a lot of different categories here.

my question is......You've got your regular treaded tires, then on the opposite side you have slicks. Cross between the two = Drag Radials. Is there a cross between regular tread and Drag Radials? Even if nittos DO technically have tread I dont think its a great idea to have them on my daily driver which I'm forced to drive in the rain...so I'm trying to find the best of both worlds without any downside pretty much, lol.
Ive found that my Nitto DRs worked great in the rain. Even in the near bald
state that they are in now.
I dont think there is a tire between radials and Drag radials except maybe a regular (non DR) Nitto 555 or just a good performance street tire.

....either way this thread is about auto-X tires :roll:
PHRANQUY
08-20-2005, 11:22 AM
hmm I'm seeing a lot of different categories here.

my question is......You've got your regular treaded tires, then on the opposite side you have slicks. Cross between the two = Drag Radials. Is there a cross between regular tread and Drag Radials? Even if nittos DO technically have tread I dont think its a great idea to have them on my daily driver which I'm forced to drive in the rain...so I'm trying to find the best of both worlds without any downside pretty much, lol.

Wrong subject dude. Pay attention, auto-x, not 1/4 mile...
MachoCamachoZ
08-20-2005, 12:15 PM
i've heard falken azines from a buddy of mine... course he hasnt tried em out YET, he's planning on tryin to go auto xing at the next event..if his car is done.
Zinc
08-20-2005, 12:53 PM
Michelin Pilot Sport Cups. /thread
StangerJon
08-20-2005, 01:26 PM
@ $240 a tire sport cups are nice but there is def. a better value out there.
Zinc
08-20-2005, 04:50 PM
He wasn't asking for value.
StangerJon
08-20-2005, 06:34 PM
@ $240 a tire sport cups are nice but there is def. a better value out there.

well god damn, my brother was at my house today. :lol:
scores
08-21-2005, 07:05 PM
I think you need to assess whether or not you're planning on driving to the autox or not.

If you dont mind the classing, just get yourself a set of Kumho VictoRacers.. anything R-Comp from them is a great tire. Hoosier auto-x racing compound.. mmm

For street tires that handle well, I am running Eagle F1 GS-D3s. They have great roadhandling and do net get greasy like my Kumho Ecsta Supra 712s. The Ecsta MX is NOT a bad tire. It is made for high-performance situations. I think you guys need to get past the "kumho" brand name stereotype.

Victo V710s pwn! Even though their life expectancy is less than the V700.
StangerJon
08-21-2005, 07:10 PM
kumho 712's suck balls.

I would not recommend those tires to anyone trying to do any sort of perf. driving.



victo racers are good though. from what I hear, I have never run them though.
mnstang
08-21-2005, 07:39 PM
The Ecsta MX is NOT a bad tire. It is made for high-performance situations. I think you guys need to get past the "kumho" brand name stereotype.
:werd:

i was not kidding
scores
08-21-2005, 09:42 PM
:werd:

i was not kidding


I figured so. But the guys who ripped your decision clearly dont understand :shame:
PHRANQUY
08-21-2005, 10:44 PM
I'm considering the Kuhmo Ecsta MX's for my whale....
Stallion
08-21-2005, 11:06 PM
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&tireModel=SP+Super+Sport+Race
Stallion
08-21-2005, 11:10 PM
my name is kickassflash, if I do that again I will be banned. :nod:
Stallion
08-21-2005, 11:21 PM
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Ameri-GS60

Look into these tires. Top autocross drivers use them all over the country, ive heard some F1 drivers even use them.

Haha, I just did it again. "My name is Jon and if I modify this post I will be sodomized by a hot curling iron."

Lol, I just read this comment: "these tires stink i almost got killed today from them on brand new car... all the do is spin in the rain.. had regatta 2 tires on old buick and they were excellent .. these just plain ----:("

haha god damn that is some funny shit right there
Stormwalker
08-22-2005, 12:41 AM
lol @ last post



Anyways, I figured my advice would be valuable here, since I have put in quite a bit of autox time on my current Ecsta MX tires. I previously ran the Sumitomo HTR III tires on the same wheels, and the Kumhos seem to have a bit more give in the sidewall, but everything else, they are great. Great stickiness, great treadwear. Expect to run more pressure in the front to keep the sidewalls under control, and less in the back to take advantage of their bite. They double great on the street too, excellent in rain and for general highway driving. So there is the scoop on the ecsta MX.

And to sum it all up, they can't hold a candle to the tires my brother suggested, and uses. The Dunlop SP Super Sport tires are ungodly for street tires, I have no idea why they are not classified as R compound, because they act just like it. If you do not want to run victos for your application, get the Dunlops. They are usable in the rain, but not the greatest.

If you can't run the Dunlops for some reason, then run the Ecsta MX. I have also tried out almost all the comprable brands on different wheels, but they were on 15s, so not sure if it was an unfair comparison or not (difference in sidewall), but for that level of tire, the Kumho Ecsta MX gets my vote, again, if you cannot run the Dunlops due to wheel size issues.
StangerJon
08-22-2005, 12:54 AM
just checked on those dunlops.



only come in 18's now.
Stormwalker
08-22-2005, 12:57 AM
just checked on those dunlops.



only come in 18's now.

Availability varies. Tirerack stocks 17" sizes from time to time, but it is kind of a hit or miss thing. If you want the Dunlops, and have 17" wheels, just keep checking back with them. Otherwise, there may be other avenues, but I don't know since I have never needed to look for tires other than 18".
anotherfun240
08-25-2005, 01:36 PM
Those falken Azenis' do work very well and are really cheap for how well they hold their grip, only downside is they come in 17in. and below but im sure most people don't run anything larger than a 17 at an auto-x anyways.
Stormwalker
08-25-2005, 01:54 PM
im sure most people don't run anything larger than a 17 at an auto-x anyways.

Roflez
Pressured
08-25-2005, 02:42 PM
I ran the Nitto 55rII on my firebird and on my vette. Drove them to and from events many times. They come up to temp fast (which you guys are missing; unless you are rtunning tire warmers in between runs) stick great, and can be driven to and from. Tire rack sells them competitively priced. Keep in mind, what ever tires you decide on if you end up with an "r" compund, make sure to dial in some more negative camber and maybe even a little toe out in the front. The toe out will really help with turn in.
Steve
08-27-2005, 06:37 AM
Size matters.............Yes................those are 335's on a fox
Zinc
08-27-2005, 09:51 PM
I still say go w/ Piloet Sport Cups if you want insane grip while still being street legal.